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Hooked-up with Seattle Peak Oil and partied with Jan Lundberg!
Submitted by Jerry on November 6, 2007 - 9:09pm.
On November 1, I attended Seattle Peak Oil’s first Thursday-of each-month meet up, where Jan Lundberg himself was speaking, discussing his plans for a Sail Transportation Network.
I arrived a half-hour late, as I had to find the Phinney Neighborhood Center, north of downtown Seattle. After having been there listening, I thought that the future that Jan Lundberg envisioned was ideal, someday being able to use sailing ships to transport people and cargo.
Several people did have critical concerns about pulling this project off in the Puget Sound area, with respect to current government regulations, laws, etc. To add to this discussion, I couldn’t resist raising my hand.
While I thought his vision was a great idea, I didn’t see it really happening until after the Petrocollapse, after the mass-anarchy and die-off had already occurred, as the survivors (us, hopefully) re-engineer what’s left of our technology. It wasn’t an effort to try to sharpshoot Jan, as much as it was just being a realist, who tries to specialize in predictive analysis. I mentioned how difficult it would be in the present to try to sell the average person on the water these days, the average Johnny Punchclocks who are into NASCAR and the NFL, who spend $60.00 to fill-up the tank in their jet skis, and never heard of Peak Oil. Jan’s response was something to the effect that if enough people were actively involved, it could be pulled-off.
During the informal breakout session, I was able to introduce myself to Jan and others as “Jerry Erwin, Portland Peak Oil.” I told Jan it was an honor to meet him. He introduced himself as “Jan,” and said “the honor was his.”
I followed Jan and the Seattle Peak Oil group of “hardcores”, (about a dozen of them) to a local pub. When I was introduced as being from Portland Peak Oil, I received a celebrity welcome! Particularly from Chris Adams, one of their main organizers. I told them I couldn’t take any credit for the accomplishments of the activist side of PPO, however, but that I have gotten more involved in the exchange of knowledge, since becoming a member. Chris told me that they practically had trading cards of us PPO members! He also told me he knew Jeremy. While there I described to Chris Adams roughly how PPO was organized, while he drew a conceptual diagram of how Seattle Peak Oil is organized.
Needless to say, I had a great time, discussing things with Jan Lundberg himself, and the members of Seattle Peak Oil. Just like in Portland, it’s like therapy, while living in a decaying, NFL and NASCAR watching, out-to-lunch culture.
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Glad you were able to meet up with another peak oil chapter, we need to do more of that. While I'm expecting things to get quite a bit more interest (in the Chinese curse meaning of interesting) I'm not at all sure there will be a significant population event.
We (the USA) are considerably less then well positioned but _IF_ we dig in like we did in WWII then we stand a pretty good chance. Again I'm optimistic about a possible post peak oil world, it is the transition that I'm rather worried about.
Jeremy O'Leary, Working to support my biology habit.
I remeber you
and in case you haven't already noticed, that's Dave Adams:)
Sorry I forgot your first name
Hi Dave,
Sorry I forgot your first name after that night up there in Seattle. I had your name and email written on a paper napkin in that totally Seattle tavern we were at. Unfortunately, I later lost it. Had an AWESOME time up there!
I'm currently at Ft. Lewis again, for the entire month of January, researching and briefing on international current events to important 'higher-ups'.
I hope you guys up there are making preparations (getting recession-proof jobs, growing food, etc.). I can see in the very near future, ending messages to you guys with "Take care of each other, Seattle", as I was reminded watching Season One of 'Jericho' on DVD. I'm trying to get the wife caught-up on the episodes, before they start the new ones on Feb. 12.
More and more of us are convinced that we need to focus on ourselves, as compared to getting the word out on Peak Oil. It's getting too close: Global credit crisis meets Peak Oil, meets Climate Change.
If you have anything going on in Seattle this month, let me know.
Jerry
PS: I'm starting construction of rain catchment barrels. Do you know where to get "Tank Adapters", that allow you to cut a hole in a surface, then screw the two pieces together? The inside of this is threaded, allowing you to simply screw in a tap (May be more of a question for Engineer Jim at PPO).
well...
I'm not Dave, I'm Alec. I remeber you from the meeting. Washington isn't Canada or Oregon, so other than the Chupacabra, I get kicked out of all the other taverns SPOA flocks to, even though I haven't intentionally drank anything hard for about five years now (but I could destroy lives and cultures in the military!).
I don't know what adaptors you've been thinking of, and I don't know of Jim's activities, but there are a handful of folks at SPOA that have set up catchment systems and some may know. There are a couple threads on the SPOA forums that may help...too lazy to cite, but I know they're there.